The Downliners Sect – Baby What’s On Your Mind

Should have been as big as the Stones

The Downliners Sect – Cost of Living

I love the Downliners Sect. That first album was sensational. They should have been enormous.

I thought I had everything but I’ve never heard this track though.

Very appropriate for today.

(1) The Downliners Sect – The Cost of Living 45rpm 1966 – YouTube

So Long Don Craine!! The Downliners Sect!!

A band that should have been as big as the Stones!! Don Craine was the man!!

Great memories!

Today’s Music to keep me SsSSssaaAaaAnnnNNEEEe in Isolation – The Downliners Sect

This band came about the same time as the Stones. I thought they were better but they changed direction and never took off.

Today’s Music to keep me SsSSaAAAnNnnEeEe in Isolation – Downliners Sect – The Downliners Sect

Back when I was fifteen the Stones brought out their first album. I thought it was brilliant but then discovered the Sect’s first album. It was all R&B stuff and I thought they sounded great – every bit as good as the Stones.

This always takes me back! I’ll enjoy playing that album. It’s of its time.

The Downliners Sect – Baby What’s On Your Mind – YouTube

Too Much Monkey Business-Downliners Sect – YouTube

Downliners Sect – Lonely And Blue – YouTube

Downliners Sect Little Egypt – YouTube

Downliners Sect “Glendora” – YouTube

Downliners Sect – Shame, Shame, Shame – YouTube

The Downliner’s Sect – Opher’s World pays tribute to genius.

Downliner’s Sect – Opher’s World pays tribute to genius.

 

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The Downliner’s Sect were the band that got away. They appeared like sweet mountain dew and promptly evaporated into the magic air without achieving the fulfilment of their promise.

They were my band. I specialised in delighting in the discovery of brilliant obscure bands and songs that never garnished the charts. It bemused my contemporaries. The Sect were one of my discoveries. I found them nestling incongruously in the small record rack in our local electrical goods store in Walton on Thames. It was a store not renowned for stocking anything other than standard chart material. I used to peruse the wares every now and again. The cover called to me. I was instantly enchanted. I took a chance. For some reason my expectations were high. I got a thrill from simply holding and looking at the album. I could see from the track list that it was the type of stuff that would appeal. I was not disappointed.

It was the Summer of 1964. The Stones were leading the mad charge of British R&B. The Stones were wonderfully uncouth and surly. Their music was seminal. The Yardbirds were doing the same sort of things but seemingly on large doses of Amphetamine. The Pretty Things scowled and were even more extreme and then there was Them, the Animals and a host more. They were all mining the same rich vein of Chicago Blues.

It wasn’t until I got home that I could put the truth of my instincts to the test. From the moment I slipped it on my turntable and the needle went down I knew it was the business. This was the ultimate R&B band. They were punchy, earthy, pacey, wild and distinctive. I had discovered the lodestone of British R&B. No other band was was as original/.

That should have been it. They had the look, sound and music to go with it. 1964 should have been their year. It never happened.

They must have had the wrong management. The singles did not match the album. They deviated from the raw R&B. The breakthrough never materialised.

It did not bother me. It meant I had them to myself. Their album took pride of place in my collection alongside the Kinks, Who and Chuck Berry albums. I was confident that the second album would rectify the problem.

I got an EP instead. It was a bemusing EP entitled The Sect Sing Sick Songs. Good but a change in style.

Then the second album arrived – The Country Sect – it was a mish-mash of Country and Folk. Where was the raw R&B? They’d left their R&B fans high and dry.

This was baffling. What were they doing? They appeared to be jumping on every trend going. It gave their credibility a kicking. Not only that but they were falling short.

What we wanted was another dose of that driving R&B they were so brilliant at – that searing guitar, wailing harp, thumping bass and drum pounding to the manic vocals – the self-penned quirky songs. This was just confusing.

The singles were humorous originals and the EP and albums were all different.What did they believe in? Were they serious about anything?

The next album confirmed it. It was an attempt at Rock and Pop. That sealed their fate.

The Downliner’s Sect were never going to be recognised as a great R&B unit as they might have been. They’d missed the boat – or rather scuttled it!

Still we had that one glorious album. It was enough to establish their credibility as an outstanding band.

It just should have been so much more!

Rock Music – British Beat and Mod-beat from the sixties – a list of the best tracks.

This is a list of my favourite tracks from the sixties Beat Boom of1964. There were some great bands.

This is when Britain ruled the world. Our Music dominated. We took the States by storm and there were hundreds of great bands. My favourites were the Downliners Sect!

Rock Routes cover

This is another extract from the book Rock Routes. I bet you would add a few tracks to this and maybe take a couple out. But that’s the fun of it!

Band Stand out tracks
Rolling Stones Carol

Walking the dog

I just want to make love to you

Come on

Its all over now

I Can’t be satisfied

Little red rooster

I’m a king bee

Mona (I need you baby)

Downhome girl

Under the boardwalk

Grown up all wrong

What a shame

You can’t catch me

Pain in my heart

Off the hook

Susie Q

I can’t be satisfied

Talking about you

I’m free

That’s how strong my love is

Hitch hike

You better move on

Take it or leave it

Mother’s little helper

Out of time

Under my thumb

I want to be loved

Poison ivy

Not fade away

Its all over now

Around and round

Downliners Sect One ugly child

Our little rendezvous

Too much monkey business

Baby what’s on your mind

Bloodhound

Cops & robbers

I wanna put a tiger in your tank

Be a sect maniac

Hurt by love

He was a square

Them Gloria

Here comes the night

Baby please don’t go

It’s all over now Baby Blue

Kinks Well respected man

Cadillac

I’m not like everybody else

You really got me

Beautiful Delilah

Long tall shorty

I’m a lover not a fighter

Got love if you want it

Long tall shorty

Tired f waiting for you

Come on now

Milkcow blues

Til the end of the day

All day and all of the night

Yardbirds A certain girl

Good morning little schoolgirl

I ain’t got you

I aint done wrong

Heart full of soul

Still I’m sad

I wish you would

Too much monkey business

I’m a man

Smokestack lightnin’

Here Tis

Got love if you want it

Animals Story of Bo Diddley

Dimples

Bury my body

I’m mad again

Boom boom

Around and around

I aint got you

For Miss Caulker

Roadrunner

I’m cryin’

House of the rising sun

Don’t let me be misunderstood

We gotta get out of this place

Screaming Lord Sutch I’m a hog for you baby

Jack the ripper

Monster in black tights

Pretty Things Don’t bring me down

Rosalyn

Roadrunner

Mama, keep your big mouth shut

She’s fine she’s mine

Honey I need

Pretty Thing

Can’t stand the pain

Buzz the jerk

Nashville Teens Tobacco Road

Goggle eye

Find my way back home

I like it like that

Moody Blues Go now
Manfred Mann 5 4 3 2 1

If you gotta go go now

Do wah diddy diddy

It’s gonna work out fine

Down the road apiece

Smokestack lightnin’

I’m your kingpin

I’m your Hoochie Coochie man

The way you do the things you do

Spencer Davis Dimples

Keep on running

Gimme some lovin’

I’m a man

Somebody help me

Strong love

I washed my hands in muddy water

This hammer

When a man loves a woman

Midnight special

Others Oh Yeah
Poets We’re Thru
Sorrows Take a heart
Measles Casting my spell
Birds Leaving here
Cryin’ Shames Please stay
Undertakers (Do the) mashed potatoes

Just a little bit

Paramounts Poison ivy

Little bitty pretty one

A certain girl

Zombies She’s not there

Tell her no

Roulettes Bad Time
Adam Faith & Roulettes We are in love

The First time

 

 

Artist Outstanding Tracks
Who I can’t explain

My generation

Happy Jack

Summertime blues

The kids are all right

Boris the spider

I can see for miles

So sad about us

Mary Ann with the shakey hand

Anyway anyhow anywhere

Substitute

Pictures of Lily

Smallfaces What ya gonna do about it

Sha la la la lee

Shake

My mind’s eye

Hey girl

All or nothing

Action Land of a 1000 dances

Shadows and reflections

 

 

 

Rock Music Genres – The British Blues Beat Groups of the early 60s – The Rolling Stones, Yardbirds, Them, Pretty Things, Downliners Sect and Animals.

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The British Beat Group Blues boom – 1964

Hard on the heels of Merseybeat came the first British Blues boom in the form of the sixties beat groups. They were led by the Rolling Stones but closely followed by the Animals, Pretty Things, Yardbirds, Downliners Sect, Manfred Mann, Bo St Runners, Kinks and Them.

The real pioneers of this Blues boom were Alexis Korner’s Blues Incorporated, Graham Bond and Zoot Money. But, while being seminal, they did not receive the commercial success of their compatriots.

The blues set, of which I was one, were a little snooty when it came to the blues. We saw it as superior to the Pop and Rock of the day. It seemed raw, earthy and authentic, not produced as a product by the record companies. This was genuine music from the heart, or at least the genitals. It spoke of real life and not soppy love, and teenage crap. You could wander about looking incredible serious and intellectual clutching your Sleepy John Estes and Elmore James albums. It was all very cliquey. And this was precisely how many of these bands came together. They were passionate aficionados. To us blues wasn’t just a music form; it was a crusade. We loved it and we loved those old black guys from the depths of Mississippi, Texas and Louisiana. It was an exclusive club.

In the Art Colleges all over the country various passionate blues musicians got together to swap their precious collections of coveted albums, learn licks, exchange tales and learn how to imitate their idols. They didn’t do it quite the same. They speeded it up a bit, added a bit of a rave up, but in general were remarkably true to the music of their heroes. They might have wanted to make the big time but it was more important to be true to the music, do it justice and win the respect of your fellow musicians. In the process it created a great club scene and a lot of followers. The blues was cool.

From the Deep South of the Thames Delta we had the Rolling Stones and Yardbirds fighting it out for supremacy in Richmond and the Kinks and Pretty Things battling with the Downliners Sect. From the swamps and levees of Newcastle we had the Animals and from the plantations of Ireland we had Them. Almost overnight the blues was the biggest thing going and the kids were all dancing to the music of black southern America.

The catalogues of Howlin’ Wolf, Muddy Waters, Jimmy Reed, Robert Johnson, Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry and John Lee Hooker were plundered.

The Stones nearly hit with their first single – a cover of Chuck Berry’s ‘Come On’ and then had theit first top ten hit with a song given to them by the Beatles. After that it was all systems go. They actually got to number one with an extremely authentic version of Howlin’ Wolf’s ‘Little Red Rooster’. Their first two albums were stuffed with blues covers. Likewise the Kinks first album was full of Swamp Blues. Them hit the charts with ‘Baby Please Don’t Go’. There were covers of ‘Dimples’, ‘Got My Mojo Working’, ‘I’m a Lover not a Fighter’, ‘Got Love if You Want It’, ‘Good Morning Little Schoolgirl’, ‘Hoochie Coochie Man’, ‘I Just Want to Make Love to You’, ‘I Ain’t Got You’, ‘Cadillac’, ‘Honest I Do’, ‘I’m a Man’, ‘I’m Mad Again’, ‘I Wish You Would’, ‘Smokestack Lightnin’’, Mona (I Need You Baby)’, ‘Too Much Monkey Business’, ‘Around and Round’, ‘Bo Diddley’, ‘You Can’t Judge a Book’, ‘You Can’t Catch Me’, ‘Boom Boom’, and a dozen more. The blues was selling to white kids. They were in the playground discussing blues harp, slide guitar and square guitars. The exclusive club had opened right up.

This in turn paved the way for the blues guys to come back over from America. Middle-aged blues guys like Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Sonny Boy Williamson and John Lee Hooker received rapturous receptions from young white kids while mini-skirted white girls danced to their rhythm. They must have been amaqzed. It was a million miles away from the sweaty Chicago clubs.

The Press had a field day. They pitted the long-haired, scruffy blues bands against the smart suited Mersey bands. There were the lovable mop-tops and the obscene and dangerous Stones who you wouldn’t want your daughter going within a hundred miles of. It was great fun and of course the Stones manager – Andrew Loog Oldham – lapped it up and fed it for all it was worth.

What it did to the music was to bring a harder edge to the sound. It was not so Poppy and over-produced. There was a rough, raw edge to it. This was not commercial pop; this was unrefined blues – and it rocked! The excitement and energy was right there in your face!

The first band I ever saw live were the British Birds with Ron Wood on guitar. The second band I caught was Them when ‘Baby Please Don’t Go’ was riding high in the charts. I was in my element.

Of course it couldn’t last. The blues bands were quickly joined by the Mod bands and soon everyone was writing their own material. It all became more ‘original’ sounding and the blues became only one component.

You can see it with the Stones – the first two albums were heavily Blues and then the music changed. Likewise with the Downliners Sect – one superb blues album and then into country. The Kinks – one Swamp Blues album and then their own distinctive sound. The blues phase moved on and burnt itself out. After 1964 the British Blues Beat Bands changed their sound.

The irony was that, on the back of the Beatles and Merseybeat, the British Beat groups exported blues back to America. The Rolling Stones, Animals and Yardbirds got the American white kids dancing to black American blues. The real thing might have been playing on their doorsteps and they had never heard it. They went for the sound of the British Beat groups with a vengeance. The blues invaded America.

Downliner’s Sect – Opher’s World pays tribute to genius.

 

DownlinersSect_TheSect_1964

 

The Downliner’s Sect were the band that got away. They appeared like sweet mountain dew and promptly evaporated into the magic air without achieving the fulfilment of their promise.

They were my band. I specialised in delighting in the discovery of brilliant obscure bands and songs that never garnished the charts. It bemused my contemporaries. The Sect were one of my discoveries. I found them nestling incongruously in the small record rack in our local electrical goods store in Walton on Thames. It was a store not renowned for stocking anything other than standard chart material. I used to peruse the wares every now and again. The cover called to me. I was instantly enchanted. I took a chance. For some reason my expectations were high. I got a thrill from simply holding and looking at the album. I could see from the track list that it was the type of stuff that would appeal. I was not disappointed.

It was the Summer of 1964. The Stones were leading the mad charge of British R&B. The Stones were wonderfully uncouth and surly. Their music was seminal. The Yardbirds were doing the same sort of things but seemingly on large doses of Amphetamine. The Pretty Things scowled and were even more extreme and then there was Them, the Animals and a host more. They were all mining the same rich vein of Chicago Blues.

It wasn’t until I got home that I could put the truth of my instincts to the test. From the moment I slipped it on my turntable and the needle went down I knew it was the business. This was the ultimate R&B band. They were punchy, earthy, pacey, wild and distinctive. I had discovered the lodestone of British R&B. No other band was was as original/.

That should have been it. They had the look, sound and music to go with it. 1964 should have been their year. It never happened.

They must have had the wrong management. The singles did not match the album. They deviated from the raw R&B. The breakthrough never materialised.

It did not bother me. It meant I had them to myself. Their album took pride of place in my collection alongside the Kinks, Who and Chuck Berry albums. I was confident that the second album would rectify the problem.

I got an EP instead. It was a bemusing EP entitled The Sect Sing Sick Songs. Good but a change in style.

Then the second album arrived – The Country Sect – it was a mish-mash of Country and Folk. Where was the raw R&B? They’d left their R&B fans high and dry.

This was baffling. What were they doing? They appeared to be jumping on every trend going. It gave their credibility a kicking. Not only that but they were falling short.

What we wanted was another dose of that driving R&B they were so brilliant at – that searing guitar, wailing harp, thumping bass and drum pounding to the manic vocals – the self-penned quirky songs. This was just confusing.

The singles were humorous originals and the EP and albums were all different.What did they believe in? Were they serious about anything?

The next album confirmed it. It was an attempt at Rock and Pop. That sealed their fate.

The Downliner’s Sect were never going to be recognised as a great R&B unit as they might have been. They’d missed the boat – or rather scuttled it!

Still we had that one glorious album. It was enough to establish their credibility as an outstanding band.

It just should have been so much more! Continue reading Downliner’s Sect – Opher’s World pays tribute to genius.