10 thoughts on “Things Worth Fighting For

  1. and there are those who agitate in the hope they create division and war, in particular those who covet wealth over community, fine quote, I recall the men who went over the trenches, knowing they had a 80% of death in a matter of minutes for the sake of a better and more peaceful world, how would they judge our efforts, thought for a good poem, amen

    1. The truth is these men were not privy to that statistic. No such language was discussed anywhere near any front line troops. Only those that had been in previous excursions over the top had anything of an idea of their chances, and those going over on a third wave. They might have known it was otherwise there wouldn’t have been any need for a third wave. They would also have heard the constant machine guns for quite some time and the cries of death from the field.

      1. That’s not true. They didn’t see what others were doing. If they were close enough to see, then they too were also going over at the same time. These over the top advances were usually something like half a mile breadth ways across.
        Those others in surrounding trenches would only hear, and did not see. It’s not as if they all sat a top their trench and watched.
        They would only have heard from a distance and just one of them could see through a periscope, if it was in any shape of working order.

      2. Opher- both my grandfathers were there. One was at both the Somme and Passchendaele, the other at Passchendaele and the 1st Ypres. Both left wounded enough not to return.
        Neither had a clue what was going on. They were told nothing. Any troops who had been over and whose platoon had been more or less eliminated were under strict orders to keep quiet under threat of treason and execution. It was forbidden to speak of it. I trust you can understand that.
        No, they knew very little. They were also given false information that the enemy lines had been completely destroyed. So off they’re sent over the top to take the smashed to bits enemy territory, they march half way there and the then the machine guns start. Nobody knew what hit them.
        Had these 275,00 boys who were killed at Passchendaele, 623,000 allied troops at the Somme with about 145,000 killed, and 47,000 killed at Ypres all known their imminent fate there would have been mutiny. This would not be an unusual situation for the British army as it had mutinied many times before for one reason or another.
        In 1917 there were some 35,000 casualties per month during quiet periods. But a mere thousand a day across the entire front was nothing to even notice.

    2. BW – thank you. A plague on those who ferment for war for profit.
      I think all those gallant troops would have been appalled by the antics of the politicians and warmakers down through the years. The ones that came back certainly did not get the result they thought they were fighting for – a fairer society – a country fit for heroes.

      1. it’s good remind ourselves of the sacrifice others make, and the cost of war on the mental well being of all the survivors in action ,thanks again

      2. One of my Grandfathers was there. The other served in the navy. My father was in the second world war. None of them talked about it. I think they were all traumatised.

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