Once again the twisted fundamentalist ideology has created terror. Religious fundamentalists from the Dark Ages wage their senseless war against the twenty first century.
They want to take us back in time to the intolerant cruelty of a thousand three hundred years ago.
They believe they are doing god’s will.
They are indoctrinated fools.
They believe they will wake up in heaven as holy martyrs. They are mistaken. They will never wake up. All they have achieved is to waste life.
Life is precious.
I affirm life not death. Their doctrine is disgusting. It should be opposed by every means possible. Fundamentalism, in whatever form, is a disease.
The people from here in the UK who go out to fight for ISIS to butcher US, they are taught here in this Country and what do the powers over us do NOTHING. Why aren’t these bastards that teach these morons to go and fight arrested and locked up permanently, why aren’t the families and don’t tell me they are all innocent and do not know what is going on. The Italians in the last War were locked up? We are too soft, their human rights, what about ours we have no rights when it comes to these bastards. None of us are safe and the sooner we face up to what is going on here the better, we let so many so called refugees in, terrorists/rapists amongst them do we check no we are too damn lazy. We have a Women’s centre here, there was outrage when it was suggested but the Council approved it, there are teachings there and I am sure they are all innocent?? We need to get tough really tough not waste time talking or “trying to understand them”.
I agree with that. The scum who preach hate, raicalise the kids, pervert Islam and spread hatred and intolerance need locking up. I don’t know why they aren’t.
There should be checks made on all the immigrants and criminals/terrorists kicked out. But that is hard when there is mass migration, war, misery and suffering.
But we also need to be compassionate. There are people suffering, kids dying and people terrorised by war. They need help.
I believe we have to be both tough and compassionate.
In order to stop the radicalisation we have to understand what is driving it and counter it. It is complex.
Very complex
It requires a great deal of thinking through.
There is no complex, had we not interfered in these Countries we would not be here now. What do you want Opher all these so called suffering people to come here so we can care for them, we have enough problems trying to “care” for our own scum who abuse the system. Ask those that were so horrifically injured in Belgium yesterday, asked the loved ones who lost those they loved, ask those that witnessed bodies blown apart, heads left rolling on the ground headless bodies still twitching. That’s the reality, that’s going to be here in this Country I have no doubt before long, what will your view be then “they need love, educating etc” no these bastards need to be obliterated now. I have great admiration for President Hollande, he is tougher than I imagined and France is so lucky to have him right now, at least he is doing something. What do we have, David Cameron who won’t do anything unless George agrees as well. Corbyn who could parachute into the terrorists camp with his bike helmet on and his silver suit “talk to them offer them beer and sandwiches, and of course understanding”. Obama who has done nothing in eight years, and wants to go out on a high. They understand death and that’s what we should give them. Casualties of War there will always be.
Your are right that by going in to Iraq and Afghanistan we have created ISIS. War usually does that.
But No. I think you are completely wrong. What you are doing is an emotional knee-jerk.
The terrorists are scum.
The bombs were terrible.
The victims blown to pieces are horrendous.
Blowing more people to bits is no answer.
Who are you after blowing up?
How would you identify them?
The terrorists are hoping to cause hatred and division. They feed off it.
I don’t want to bring everyone over here. I want all the poor children and families cared for. I want the war ending. I want the inequality and poverty sorted out.
There are not any magic wands.
I would toughen up systems. I’d ban burqas and hijabs as unBritish. I’d monitor mosques and arrest anyone espousing hatred.
I’m not soft. I’m compassionate, fair and tough.
Corbyn is partially right. We do have to talk to everyone. That is what happened with the IRA. That includes Iran and Saudi, who are fuelling the terrorism. All I would add is that we have to support the military action in alliance with Arab nations.
Life is not simple. It is incredibly complex. Hollande cannot do anything. He just sounds tough. I prefer Obama. He pulled the troops out. We need to support the Arabs so that we are not used in ISIS recruitment as waging war on Islam and being crusaders.
I have no answer for you Opher, except to say that you prefer that ineffectual Obama well I am shocked
What did you want him to do?
Go in with guns blazing like Bush and Blair did?
If that is it then I wouldn’t support it.
Obama wanted a health care system. He wanted gun laws. He wanted to end Guantamo. The Republicans have stopped him doing things at every turn.
Obama has been a disappointment. He did not get as much done as he should have. But compared to the John Wayne stupidity of Bush he was a triumph. Bush succeeded in creating ISIS and the mess the world is in. Obama didn’t create that mess.
No, he set a date to walk out of Iraq did exactly that and left it wide open for the partial rise of ISIS. He may not have started Iraq but how does withdrawing without any plan whatsoever purely for personal popularity helped in any way?
You’re probably right. They needed to get the Iraq army trained up and equipped properly before going.