I feel so angry and despondent. I feel that the opportunist bumbling Boris has led us into such a mess that we cannot get out of it. The worst is yet to come. He did that even though he did not believe in what he was spouting. Every warning was met with a senseless cry of scaremongering and Project Fear but no real explanation or alternative reasoning. He is still spouting drivel and making light of the mess he has created. The man is a self-interested imbecile.
This is not a simple volatility of the markets. This is not something that will adjust and bounce right back. A proportion of firms will relocate. There will be years of uncertainty at best. Investment will be down. The end result is that we will all be a lot poorer than we were.
This would not be so bad if it solved the problems that people were concerned with – but it won’t. We will still be tied to the single market. We will not solve the immigration problem. We will not have control over our borders. We will not reduce bureaucracy. We will still be controlled by the EU superstate. We will just have no voice and a lot less power. We will not be greater than we were. We have cut our nose off and driven away our plastic surgeons.
Many who voted leave are now appalled by what is happening but it was all predicted. Many who didn’t vote are dismayed at what they have allowed. Many who protested against the mess the Tories have made with their austerity or whose disdain of politicians feel that this is not what was meant to happen.
Just short of 4 million people have signed the petition for a rerun of the referendum. They feel like me. They are angry, frustrated and appalled. They want a way out of this nightmare.
The supporters of Brexit think that it is just a short period of volatility that will soon settle and then we will take advantage of the new markets and opportunities. I think they are living in cloud cuckoo-land.
All the warnings that were called scaremongering are coming into force.
Our Credit rating has been downrated which affects the cost of paying off the interest on the huge borrowing this government has been taking on will cost us ten of billions.
The pound has dropped through the floor.
The market has dropped hugely, wiping heaven knows how many billions off the country.
Multinationals are saying they will relocate.
The UK is in danger in splitting up.
There is hatred on the streets.
There is division like never before.
The Tories are in chaos.
The Labour Party is ripping itself apart.
The Brexiteers have no idea or plan.
The Brexiteers are backtracking on all their promises – immigration, funding for NHS. There have been ructions throughout Europe and the world. Europe is looking to punish us to ensure the contagion doesn’t spread.
I can’t actually see how anything worse could have happened.
The hope is that the markets settle so that the cost is not as great as it might be.
The hope is that the social division settles.
The hope is that the political chaos produces a clear unified leadership.
From the way I see it all three of those things will happen. But the markets won’t return us to the prosperity we enjoyed because our economy will inevitably shrink. The social situation will settle but it will not ever be as good as it was because the racists and xenophobes feel that they have been given validation. The political situation looks like producing a right-wing government with years of austerity and destruction of public services.
On top of that there is a grave risk of Ireland and Scotland breaking away, the Labour Party is destroyed, and Russia takes advantage of the chaos.
When will the dominoes stop falling.
The question to my mind is simply how bad will it get? There will be higher taxes and cuts in spending – so much for the windfall and reassurances – lies. There may be the break-up of the UK. There will be instability and repercussions through Europe and the World.
The country, Europe and the world, is a worse place since last Thursday.
The stupidity of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Nigel Farage and the rest of the right-wing extremists may almost certainly have led us into a bleaker future. They could have taken us into the biggest disaster since the Second World War.
2 words Opher.
Magna Carta.
You want to tear up the rules of democracy?
Then you will see a riot.
Andrew Too true, and I will be out there fighting. How dare individuals who cannot accept result democratically voted for tell me I am wrong. How Dare They!!
Anna – I accept democracy. Who said you were wrong? Do you read what I write or just make it up?
I’m not suggesting that at all Andrew. I’m suggesting that it was a mistake that has left us with a huge mess that nobody knows how bad it will become and nobody knows how to go forward.
It was ineptitude after ineptitude.
The 4 million who signed that petition are protesting because of the horror of what they see ahead. I do not believe many of them believe that we can have a rerun. They just want a way forward that does not destroy the country.
4 million what and who’s?
Facebook and Twitter monkeys that’s what.
No that is silly. You do not get 4 million people signing a petition without there being a serious issue.
Your complacency is remarkable. There are real worries here – people’s jobs, houses and lives. You make light of it. But I think people are scared shitless with what they see ahead. I know I am. I have no confidence in the silly idiots who sparked this off for their own ends. I don’t share your optimism.
Opher, Insulting, now who is doing that. “Do I read what you write, or make it up” now allow me to think of that one – I make it up of course is that what you want to hear? Think what you want.
I’m far, far from complacent. And you know very well I am not.
I’ve no doubt we have 4 million signing something, but I bet a whole load of them are only thinking in terms of visas and stuff that they read on all the scaremongering pages.
We know there’s a massive facebook and twitter campaign and any school kid can also sign this thing.
It’s not worth the paper it’s not printed on.
Andrew you are the most complacent person I have encountered. You have glasses that must have slits in to see the world from one narrow vision. Anything that doesn’t conform to your view is automatically written out and you go gathering snippets of information and anecdote to present as facts.
Now 4 million people are merely schoolboy jottings. You try starting up a petition and see if you can get a hundred signatures.
You getting beyond funny and even beyond farce.
I’ve no need to think what I want – I just read what you say. Friendship and respect – forget it Anna. You’re on a mission.
“You’re on a mission” that is what you said to me at 11.33pm June 28 – don’t you think Opher you have that the wrong way round.
I’m hardly complacent – why didn’t you just come out and say it – smugly self-satisfied.
It’s hardly correct to say such just because there are other people who wish to engage in such an activity. Signing a petition, what about it?
Judging from what we saw of the Westminster demonstration last night, the crowd as gathered didn’t look to me to be particularly representative of a large variety of people. Most seemed of a similar age and I ever saw placards written in foreign language.
Again you accuse me of “snippets of information and anecdotes”.
What anecdote yesterday?
You accuse me of having information?
I’m not sorry for my wealth of information in my memory and if I use it, too bad for you. Catch up and you just might have a chance. But there’s no point you repeating what we all see on a TV.