What the British media have to say about Trump.

Never have we seen such a Presidency. A president who sucks up to despots such as Putin and Kim Jong-Un while insulting allies; a man who condoned violence and empowered and encouraged extreme Nazi groups; a man whose level of cronyism, nepotism and corruption exceeded anything we’ve ever seen; and a man who was thoroughly inept and unsuited for office.

This is Andrew Rawnley from the Guardian:

‘Tyrants gaze with glee at what Trump has done to American democracy

Andrew Rawnsley

Andrew Rawnsley

His incitement of the violent assault on the US Capitol was the savage consummation of the four years of vandalism he has unleashed on America’s body politic.

Ever since he lost last November’s election, there have been entirely believeable reports that Donald Trump is toying with issuing a presidential pardon to himself. What he will never secure is a reprieve from history’s verdict on his wretched presidency. It will be a defining image and an enduring epitaph: the invasion and ransacking of the US Capitol by a mob he incited to prevent Congress certifying that Joe Biden had won a free and fair election. It is highly moot whether the use of the 25th amendment or a second impeachment will now bring a slightly earlier conclusion to America’s long national nightmare by removing him before the official end of his term on 20 January. However that turns out, posterity will condemn him as the president who conspired to subvert the constitution that he was solemnly sworn to preserve and protect.

Historians will also dwell on some of the other actors in play, including those Republican senators and congressmen who indulged or stoked his plot to overturn the election result by peddling claims of fraud that were themselves fraudulent and have been investigated and rejected at every level of government. None of that, nor questions about the role played by social media and why the security around Congress was so easily breached, should distract us from the fundamental point. Culpability for the violent assault on the heart of American democracy lies squarely with him, as even some who were his most ardent apologists have acknowledged.’

For the full article:

Tyrants gaze with glee at what Trump has done to American democracy | US Capitol breach | The Guardian

246 thoughts on “What the British media have to say about Trump.

    1. I agree. Trump has been empowering the far-right racist groups for four years. He has been inciting hatred, division and violence. The law must be upheld.

      1. Noise. Since when do you pretend to speak for the Senate leadership? Bunk. Enough of your empty gossip. Bring some 3rd party source which supports your revisionist non sense.

      2. No I wasn’t. I was sitting here in England watching Trump incite an insurrection as he tried to overturn a legitimate election. It was an intended coup.

      3. Here goes Opher with his broad bruch general declarations. If anybody else writes like this he screams racist. But when this “saint” does it — Jesus forgives the saved.

      4. If you are saying the democrats are equally venal, that may be the case. But I do not think they have incited violence, revolution, bigotry and so forth? Or at least not in recent years?

      5. 3 to 4 years of Russia gate lies. Obozo the clown assisted Hillery’s Russia gate lie to hide or distract from her personal e-mail treason.

      6. 4 years of lies and conspiracy, playing golf, disbanding science, killing 400,000 Americans through incompetence and empowering fascists.

      7. Golf – yes – sure beats working. You are an ignorant fool. Trump disbanded the pandemic institutions created by Obama to prepare and fight the next pandemic. He defunded science and then denied there was a pandemic – calling it a democratic hoax. He allowed it to go uncontrolled.
        USA – 400,0000 dead
        Vietnam – 35 dead
        New Zealand – 25 dead
        There’s no accounting for stupidity.

      8. An incendiary topic it seems. I have long found it pointless to continue damaging and upsetting disputes om social media, or indeed elsewhere. Much as one might disagree with the views of one’s opponent. I am sure that if you look hard enough, fault will be found in most politicians in most countries. It is in the nature if our species to compete, to try to come out on top, to defeat our enemies. Social media is simply an often disturbing microcosm of society itself. As I said to mosckerr on his own blog, we need a new paradigm for a new world. A new world where we elevate cooperation rather than competition.

      9. I think we are seeing the end of this burst of fascist populism. People are realising it was all empty bluster and incompetence. What we need is for the world to come together to solve problems – not build walls. Cooperation and global unity is the only real way forward.

      10. Anthony I have to remove about half of Mosckerr’s comments because they are too abusive and full of racism. You only see half of the stuff he puts out – and a lot of that is abusive. There is no rational debate. He does not seem capable of discussing or arguing without using abuse and vile racism.

      11. It would be more interesting to be able to have a debate about our differing views and opinions without the abuse. It’s a shame.

      12. Moshe – I throw no tantrums. I merely respond to your comments. If you put out pointless abuse and racism I delete them. A rational debate involves putting your thoughts, ideas and views in an intelligent manner without recourse to abuse or racism. As soon as you do that it removes all possibility of intelligent interaction.
        You call others subhuman and then behave as if it is you who is subhuman.

      13. Noise. You continually make vain declarations and never once have you brought a 3rd party source which supports your temper trantrums.

      14. You have repeated your self centered opinion. The Nazis define racism together with the murder of 75% of European Jewry at the hands of sub human European barbarians in the span of less than 4 years.

  1. Bunk, ya listen to toooo much propaganda. Arabs who have citizenship get vaccinations. PA and Gaza Arabs don’t. Any more that Britain has an obligation to give Americans vaccinations.

      1. Israel even vaccinates Arab prisoners in Israel. The nature of this disease, that it spreads amazingly fast. Its outside of Israeli national interests not to vaccinate all people living within the borders of the Jewish State.

      2. Israel says it will vaccinate all of its citizens before April, but many say it has a moral obligation to Palestinians as well.

      3. UN says it ‘mistakenly included’ textbooks promoting jihad war against Israel among books it distributed to students>:> what a joke Lol.

      4. Bunk. President Trump commanded to be built a real border wall and idiots called him racist. Despite the fact that previous governments in Washington made building the Wall a campaign promise and lied and ignored that campaign promise once elected. Same holds true with moving the US embassy to Jerusalem.

      5. Countries with border walls. Its so easy to refute your brain dead stupidity.

        India Bangladesh Under construction 3,268
        Pakistan Afghanistan Proposed 2,400
        Ukraine Russia Under construction 2,000
        Turkmenistan Uzbekistan Completed 2001 1,700
        India Burma Under construction 1,624
        China North Korea Under construction 1,416
        Mexico United States Proposed 930
        Saudi Arabia Iraq Completed 2014 900
        Uzbekistan Kyrgyzstan Completed 1999 870
        Iran Pakistan Under construction 700
        Costa Rica Nicaragua Proposed 650
        Malaysia Thailand Proposed 650
        India Pakistan Completed 2004 550
        Botswana Zimbabwe Completed 2003 500
        United Arab Emirates Oman Under construction 410
        Slovenia Croatia Under construction 400
        Belize Guatemala Proposed 266
        North Korea South Korea Completed 1953 248
        South Africa Zimbabwe Completed 2000s 225
        Uzbekistan Afghanistan Completed 2001 209
        Kuwait Iraq Completed 1991 193
        Hungary Serbia Completed 2015 175
        South Africa Mozambique Completed 1975 120
        Estonia Russia Planned 108
        Saudi Arabia Yemen Completed 2004 75
        Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Completed 2006 45
        Hungary Croatia Completed 2015 41
        China Hong Kong Completed 1960s 32
        Macedonia Greece Completed 2015 30
        Bulgaria Turkey Completed 2014 30
        Brunei Malaysia Completed 2005 20
        Spain (Melilla) Morroco Completed 1998 11
        Spain (Ceuta) Morroco Completed 2001 8
        Egypt

      6. Idiot, a racist attitude includes violent acts of oppression. The KKK lynching black people in the 20th Century serves as an excellent example of racism. By contrast telling Polish jokes, no matter how crude or repulsive hardly qualifies as a racist act. Idiot.

      7. Firstly – I am no idiot.
        Secondly – you obviously do not understand racism. Racism starts with words. It demeans, ridicules and belittles groups of people.
        Have you learnt nothing from what the Nazis did to Jews?? They started with name called and describing them as subhuman. Then they tried to exterminate them.
        You do the same.

      8. Telling a Polish joke does not make a person a racist. Racism – cruel oppressive violence. You throw a silly tempertantrum in public and call yourself wise … fool.

      9. Show you one person?? The majority of the civilised world think they are racist. Here:
        Polonophobia,[1] also referred to as anti-Polonism, (Polish: Antypolonizm),[2] and anti-Polish sentiment are terms for a variety of negative attitudes, prejudices, and actions against Poland, its people and its culture. These include ethnic prejudice against Poles and persons of Polish descent, other forms of discrimination, and state-sponsored mistreatment of Poles and the Polish diaspora.[3]

        This prejudice led to mass killings and genocide or it was used to justify atrocities[4][failed verification] both before and during World War II, most notably by the German Nazis, Ukrainian nationalists and Soviet communist authorities.

        https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00455091.1984.10716369?journalCode=rcjp20

        Follow that link. It tells why your jokes are racist.

      10. Definitions of racism:
        prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
        the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.

        Notice – there is no mention of action! By referring to all Europeans or all Palestinians as subhuman you are racist.
        You become what you vilify.

      11. Yes it is. There are laws against precisely that – and for very good reason. Words incite action.
        We saw that with Trump a short while back.

      12. Words can incite action. But till the action occurs … You have the right to swing your fist … till your fist reaches the tip of my nose.

      13. Nothing civilized about the UK. A society of apes in Africa, much more civilized. You don’t even know how to correctly spell civilized.

      14. Unlike you, its easy to bring an example of how the US Courts respect freedom of speech …. pornography. What line separates porn from art?

      15. Really – I seem to remember something about taking the beam out of your own eye before taking the speck out of someone elses.

      16. Obozo the criminal spy, by contrast, launched a troop surge in Afghanistan in 2009, intervened in Libya in 2011, returned troops to Iraq in 2011, and a committed U.S. military personnel in the civil war in Syria in 2014. Additionally, ISIS was running amuck in the Middle East and the organization had spread its wings into the U.S. with the death of 14 in San Bernadino, CA in 2015.

      17. I think you will find that the USA isn’t in Europe.
        I also think that ignoring the spread of extremism is a recipe for future disaster as well as condemning millions of people to a miserable future.

      18. This post WW2 policeman of the planet crap, proves that the diseased criminal minds of sub human Europeans have defiled Washington for way to long.

      19. Certainly there is a discussion to be had here – if only you could be rational and intelligent instead of abusive.
        There is no moral authority for any country to act as a policeman for the world. That job should fall to a body made up of all nations of the world – the UN. It should use the charter of human rights as the basis for its ‘policing’.
        In a world where all countries and people effect the lives of everyone else nations simply cannot be left to do their own thing – for religious or political extremists to plot and plan destruction, for big business to pollute and destroy with impunity. With the threats of nuclear and biological warfare nutcases like ISIS can wipe us all out. Rogue states like North Korea can start a World War and religious extremists can steal land off other people using a 2500 year-old piece of sci-fi as their justification.

      20. Looney Tunes. One man One Vote. Do not trust foreigners to determine policies or borders of nations to which they have no citizenship.

      21. One planet – one people – we are all citizens of one world. Nations are ancient tribal concepts – outdated and arbitrary. Israel is only 70 years old – a concept out of the minds of men – nothing more. It will not always exist.

      22. Fascism has a definition.
        Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
        The core principle — what Paxton defined as fascism’s only definition of morality — is to make the nation stronger, more powerful, larger and more successful.
        Hence MAGA and why TRump is a fascist.

      23. No. We need a global perspective. Too many tyrants, despots and human misery; too much environmental devastation, pollution and poverty; too much indoctrination, abuse and infringement of human rights. We need global standards.

      24. Bunk on your ‘global perspective’. Thank G-d the UN General Assembly has not the powers given to the Security Council —- the Victors of the 2nd World War.

      25. Trump inspired division, hatred and fascism…your words. Yet you call to police ‘religious extremists’ of foreign countries. Hypocrite.

      26. Of course it is subject to criticism. The pulling out of troops has been carried out for political reasons and is extremely short-sighted. They left allies such as the Kurds in the shit. They have opened the door for the extremists of the Taliban, El Shabab, Isis, A Qaeda and Iran to extend their influence and retake control. It hasn’t been thought through and creates massive problems further down the road.

      27. The Kurds were allies who were instrumentation in the defeat of the evils of ISIS – then dumped by Trump. I don’t want to divide those artificially created countries. I want to do away with all countries. One people One planet.

      28. Jews were British allies by the Balfour Declaration. That did not stop the British from stabbing their Jewish allies in the back with 2, get that TWO, White Papers.

      29. When was that?
        I would remind you that without the British standing up to Hitler and liberating the death camps there would not be any Jews anywhere in the world. The final solution would have been universally final. Hitler would have taken over the world and many other races would have followed the Jews into the gas chambers. Such is the way of fascism (the way of Trump and his friends).

      30. Bunk. Britain knew of the death camps and refused to bomb the rail lines. The 1939 White Paper sealed the slaughter of European Jewry.

      31. Thjey should have bombed the lines but chose other targets. They were fighting a war.
        What 1939 white paper?
        The British took in a lot of Jewish refugees, liberated the death camps and released the Jews. Without us there wouldn’t be any Jews. We stood alone against Hitler. The US were making a fortune, sitting on the sidelines and only came in at the end after they were forced to.

      32. They also allow racist groups to wander around with semiautomatic assault weapons. They also have widespread antisemitic hatred. Big deal. We’re more civilised.

      33. Discrimination requires physical actions, not theoretical platitudes. The same applies to antagonism, irritation felt against someone without physical in your face actions, not antagonism. Nothing you say merits anything other than complete contempt.

        Your pie in the sky BS, the Nazis followed up their subhuman declarations with despicable violent crimes, they murdered physically handicapped, gypsies, political opponents as well as Jews. Idiot. Europeans have no moral mandate.

      34. Making up your own definitions to suit yourself is pathetic Moshe.
        The Nazis started with abuse just the same as yours. It escalated to actions. Just like Israel treats the Palestinians.

      35. You do not seem capable of understanding basic things Moshe. We’ve been over and over this. Racism starts with words and attitudes – like the ones you keep expressing.

      36. Slander. If you were a Xtian you’d accuse Israel of killing Balestinian babies and missing this blood of babies to make matza bread for Pass Over – barbarian.

      37. No – I just accuse them of setting up illegal settlements, bulldozing the houses of innocent people and using discrimination and violence.

      38. I would agree that we should never have taken Ireland and should get out. But we have a great affinity with the Irish people.

  2. “Arabs and Jews Get Along Very Well” in Israel

    As the media tries to paint a picture of Jewish-Arab tension, local Bedouin tells Israel Today, “I’m good here”January 19, 2021 | Ryan Jone

    The mainstream media’s been at it again, trying to paint Israel as an …

      1. Rubbish bull shit hypocrisy. Like a rabid dog – a direct comparison – you foam at the mouth and call President Trump a racist for closing the borders at the beginning of the Covid crisis. Yet, vile dog, you remain totally indifferent when Biden duplicates the exact same policy! Biden to reinstate COVID-19 travel ban targeting UK, Europe and Brazil. Drop Dead.

      2. Yet you foreign alien hypocrite condemned President Trump for closing the border to illegals coming in from Mexico. Your shallow and inferior knowledge its as obvious as the difference between black and white.

      3. Good morning Moshe. No. I did not criticise him for closing borders from Mexico. I blamed him for stupidly building a very costly ineffective wall, for calling all immigrants rapists, drug-peddlers, murderers and terrorists, for breaking up families and putting terrified children in cages and not having a proper policy to deal with immigration. Quite different.

      4. Bunk.
        India Bangladesh Under construction 3,268
        Pakistan Afghanistan Proposed 2,400
        Ukraine Russia Under construction 2,000
        Turkmenistan Uzbekistan Completed 2001 1,700
        India Burma Under construction 1,624
        China North Korea Under construction 1,416
        Mexico United States Proposed 930
        Saudi Arabia Iraq Completed 2014 900
        Uzbekistan Kyrgyzstan Completed 1999 870
        Iran Pakistan Under construction 700
        Costa Rica Nicaragua Proposed 650
        Malaysia Thailand Proposed 650
        India Pakistan Completed 2004 550
        Botswana Zimbabwe Completed 2003 500
        United Arab Emirates Oman Under construction 410
        Slovenia Croatia Under construction 400
        Belize Guatemala Proposed 266
        North Korea South Korea Completed 1953 248
        South Africa Zimbabwe Completed 2000s 225
        Uzbekistan Afghanistan Completed 2001 209
        Kuwait Iraq Completed 1991 193
        Hungary Serbia Completed 2015 175
        South Africa Mozambique Completed 1975 120
        Estonia Russia Planned 108
        Saudi Arabia Yemen Completed 2004 75
        Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Completed 2006 45
        Hungary Croatia Completed 2015 41
        China Hong Kong Completed 1960s 32
        Macedonia Greece Completed 2015 30
        Bulgaria Turkey Completed 2014 30
        Brunei Malaysia Completed 2005 20
        Spain (Melilla) Morroco Completed 1998 11
        Spain (Ceuta) Morroco Completed 2001 8
        Egypt

      5. The first promise was that he would not ban fracking, the second, that his administration would shut down the novel coronavirus. It only took Biden one day in office to prove to the American people both promises were flat out lies.

      6. Wrong. He said he would move to renewables and he is dealing with the virus – trillion dollar package and huge vaccination. Pay attention!

      7. According to your nut case understanding, President Trump he’s responsible for the Covid disaster in Poland. Something like Israel is responsible for the Covid disaster in the PA and Gaza. Poor baby dropped on your head at birth.

      8. Lol – are you suffering from some hallucination? I have never said that Trump is responsible for death rates in any other countries – just the USA! His useless complacency and policies have killed 425,000 Americans (compared to a place like Vietnam – just 25 deaths – due to good policies).

  3. So the Google link gives National statistics.  This stat has nothing whatsoever to do with the President of the United State.  The President does not determine who gets sick from Covid.  Ya need you remember that President Trump himself contracted the Covid virus!!

    The 2nd stat offered the identical that the Google link presented.  This 2nd link accomplishes nothing since the Google link already presented that info.  Your wasting my time with this padded bibliography.

    The same applies to the 3rd link.  A repetition of the original Google link.  Duh!!!!The links 4 – 7 they all repeat the info presented by your opening Google link.  Your like a dog who chases after his own tail.  Idiot.

    1. Your statement Quote\UnQuote: “You should keep abreast. Trump killed more Americans than in every way from the 1st World War until now!”

      Represents out right slander. Your a disgusting sub human being.

      1. No – just plain facts! His ridiculous stance on Covid-19 killed hundreds of thousands and made the USA the worst country for deaths in the world.
        Your obsequious love of Trump and fascism makes you blind to the facts.

      2. Nobody is talking about lie detectors – of dubious providence – we are talking about the number of dead bodies as a direct result of Presidential policy. The facts are stark numbers.

      3. Yes he encouraged illegal settlements escalating the problem. Storing up trouble. It will end with a big war in which Israel will probably be wiped out. Might be nuclear or biological.

      4. Snake crawl on your accursed stomach. You post that Israel does not vaccinate PA territories and Gaza Arab refugee populations. Yet you say nothing to: Pentagon Halts Plan to Vaccinate the 40 Prisoners at Guantánamo Bay. Shag OFF.

      5. As Palestinian factions prepare to travel to Cairo next month to hold talks on elections, which, if held, would be the first in 15 years, new obstacles have surfaced with President Mahmoud Abbas’s amendments to laws that experts say could protect him from undesired results.

        How come you say nothing?

      6. Bunk sub human, pre Shoah and post Shoah Europeans – the former ruled the world in the 19th Century whereas the latter, having murdered their God merits nothing but utter revulsion and total contempt.

      7. Maybe the vile British star courts accept such lie detector statistics – honestly such a corrupt court it would not surprise me. But never in an American court. Pathetic sub human European – go bark up a tree.

      8. Never said or even implied that Mr. slander. I said a court does not accept statistics as valid evidence and i brought at proof the refusal of American Courts to accept lie detectors as “factual evidence”. Idiot.

      9. No fool – all you brought up was that they don’t accept lie detectors everywhere – because lie detectors are not reliable. People can learn to cheat with them.

      10. No I don’t. Lie detectors are admissable in many situations but they are not statistics. A lie detector measures physiological responses which are then interpreted. They are not statistics. Do you have any understanding?

      11. My love and honor for President Trump, He hands down operated and commanded the greatest ‘good eye’ to the Jewish State of any US Governmental leader ever expressed. Silly sub human, you love and bless your friends and allies.

      12. He handed down a biased unthought through problem. The long-term implications will resound through history. Not a solution – a complication.

      13. That is you’re not your – as in you are.
        The unthought-through aspect of this is that it exacerbates rather than solves the problem – hence the Palestinian problem, which is behind a lot of the Middle East unrest, is swept under the carpet to fester and rear its head at a later date as an even bigger problem. Hence unthought-through. Trump always works on short-termism and hasn’t got the brains to thing longterm.

    2. Do you not understand anything Moshe?
      USA – 425,000 deaths from Covid-19 – a macho fool of a President who denied there was a virus, called it a Democrat hoax, told everyone that social distancing and masks were un-American, to get back to work and not fear the virus. He suggested using bleach internally and advocated hydroxychloroquine as a cure (an ineffective antimalarial drug).
      New Zealand – 25 deaths – A President who shut borders, introduced strict test, trace and isolation, quarantined all incomers and told everyone it was a serious lethal illness and they had to take it seriously distance, wash and wear masks.
      The stupid President WAS responsible for those deaths!!

      1. You say that the President denied there was a virus. Who the f*ck are you? Bring some verifiable evidence – YOUR personal opinion does not mean sh*t.

      2. Such slander! You take the language of Biden to condemn the President. Idiot. Its so easy to fact check your slander. Fool.
        This piece was originally published onPolitiFact.com on June 11, 2020

        Joe Biden: On COVID-19, Donald Trump said that “maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay.”

        PolitiFact’s ruling: Mostly False.

        Here’s why: Joe Biden criticized President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, saying during a speech on the economy that Trump had given up trying to manage a crisis he’s ill equipped to solve.

        “And when it comes to COVID-19, after months of doing nothing, other than predicting the virus would disappear, or maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay, Trump has simply given up,” said Biden, who delivered his remarks at a metalworks factory near his hometown of Scranton on Thursday.

        Trump spoke about the role he thought disinfectants could play in tackling an infection caused by the virus during a now infamous April 23 briefing. But he didn’t say people should drink bleach.

      3. Lol – true – but they weren’t suggesting that you should inject this lethal substance into your body! A slight difference!

      4. Ultra violet light to treat disease. Dissenfection “interesting to check that” But the whole concept of the light, that it kills it under a minute, that’s pretty powerful.”

        Idiot the President in that conversation with doctors weighed possible options to deal with the Covid virus. Idiot.

      5. You utter fool. This was the second time he had suggested injecting disinfectant. The man is an imbecile. Disinfectant is lethal.

      6. Bull shit slander. Listened to the “facts” you presented by that video. Idiot. Disinfectant: all hospital disinfect and clean surgery rooms to recovery rooms! Dumb ass.

      7. You ignorant fool – read and listen. Wake up!! These chemicals kill microbes in the environment. They are highly poisonous and corrosive. Drunk or injected (as Trump suggested) they are lethal.

      8. Hard radiation kills viruses too. I’m surprised he didn’t suggest shoving a chunk of uranium up his arse – come to think of it – not such a bad idea!

      9. That’s your bull shit who seek to wipe upon the President and his supporters. But your slander sticks and curses only you and idiots who foolishly assume you know what your jabbering about.

    1. A new study out of New Jersey shows that the controversial antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine could help people with mild symptoms of COVID-19. President Trump right all along.

      1. You do talk bollocks Moshe. Trump was never right – a bunch of stupid ignorant ideas from a man who has never read a book, whose IQ is stunted and is totally ignorant of science. Try drinking bleach, injecting disinfectant and sticking a UV light up your arse.

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