I think you’re wrong, Neil. It is not restricted to those people. Far too many are stupid, ignorant, ill-informed and gullible. There is an inbuilt love of violence and those politicians are elected by the people. If we were intelligent we wouldn’t be still having wars, religions and psychotic politicians.
Opher, the problem is not that we don’t have enough intelligence to know we have to get rid of these bad things – like wars, religions and psychotic politicians. And some of us know what we need to do to get rid of all these bad things: just get rid of the political state! The real problem is that we haven’t yet worked out how to do it. At least, not without them killing most of us in the process.
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I disagree Neil.
Most people are totally apathetic. They know nothing about politics or political parties and do not think it affects them at all. They don’t want rid of the political system; they just don’t care.
A large number of people (Trumpists, Fascists, extreme Left and right Wingers) actively support obnoxious, greedy, self-serving politicians. They don’t want to get rid of politics. They think that they will personally benefit from this tyranny.
Throughout history people have largely not behaved intelligently or in a civilised manner. It’s not just the gladiators, lynchings, burning at stake, witch-hunts, bear pits, cock fighting, public executions, torture, pogroms, genocides, holocaust, killing fields, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Milosevic, environmental catastrophes , or the history of war, slaughter, rape and plunder, it’s the way that simple people are so easily roused to do horrendous things. It’s in our nature. Driven by lust, greed, fear, racism or for sheer pleasure, crowds and populations can be easily roused into a baying mob who are then capable of the most horrendous deeds.
Given the opportunity people commit the most terrible crimes.
They enjoy inflicting pain on others or animals.
If they can make more profit by cutting corners on safety or at the expense of extremely poor people, or by badly damaging the environment, they cut corners.
I have zero faith in the morality of human beings or their ability to do the right thing. We are greedy and selfish, violent and racist. If we were intelligent this planet would be well-tended and all people living a comfortable, enjoyable life. Instead we have made much of it a misery for most. We create poverty and destruction. We are greedy, selfish and stupid.
Likewise religion – we don’t have to support these crazy hierarchies. We don’t have to go to churches, mosques, temples and synagogues. We don’t have to follow these nutcases who sow hate and division, death and destruction. We don’t have to put them in power. We do though.
We support and elect these psychotic leaders. That says everything you need to know.
Sorry, Opher, we are not a stupid species. They (the politicians, bureaucrats, and hangers-on) are the ones that are out of their minds.
I think you’re wrong, Neil. It is not restricted to those people. Far too many are stupid, ignorant, ill-informed and gullible. There is an inbuilt love of violence and those politicians are elected by the people. If we were intelligent we wouldn’t be still having wars, religions and psychotic politicians.
Opher, the problem is not that we don’t have enough intelligence to know we have to get rid of these bad things – like wars, religions and psychotic politicians. And some of us know what we need to do to get rid of all these bad things: just get rid of the political state! The real problem is that we haven’t yet worked out how to do it. At least, not without them killing most of us in the process.
I disagree Neil.
Most people are totally apathetic. They know nothing about politics or political parties and do not think it affects them at all. They don’t want rid of the political system; they just don’t care.
A large number of people (Trumpists, Fascists, extreme Left and right Wingers) actively support obnoxious, greedy, self-serving politicians. They don’t want to get rid of politics. They think that they will personally benefit from this tyranny.
Throughout history people have largely not behaved intelligently or in a civilised manner. It’s not just the gladiators, lynchings, burning at stake, witch-hunts, bear pits, cock fighting, public executions, torture, pogroms, genocides, holocaust, killing fields, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Milosevic, environmental catastrophes , or the history of war, slaughter, rape and plunder, it’s the way that simple people are so easily roused to do horrendous things. It’s in our nature. Driven by lust, greed, fear, racism or for sheer pleasure, crowds and populations can be easily roused into a baying mob who are then capable of the most horrendous deeds.
Given the opportunity people commit the most terrible crimes.
They enjoy inflicting pain on others or animals.
If they can make more profit by cutting corners on safety or at the expense of extremely poor people, or by badly damaging the environment, they cut corners.
I have zero faith in the morality of human beings or their ability to do the right thing. We are greedy and selfish, violent and racist. If we were intelligent this planet would be well-tended and all people living a comfortable, enjoyable life. Instead we have made much of it a misery for most. We create poverty and destruction. We are greedy, selfish and stupid.
Likewise religion – we don’t have to support these crazy hierarchies. We don’t have to go to churches, mosques, temples and synagogues. We don’t have to follow these nutcases who sow hate and division, death and destruction. We don’t have to put them in power. We do though.
We support and elect these psychotic leaders. That says everything you need to know.